[snowman]

I am reasonably good on a mechanical basis. I have built Porsche engines that survive 8500RPM without breaking, Chrysler, Chevy, Cadillac as well. I have built and used wire bonding equipment, die attach equipment that holds much much tighter tolerance than any reloading machine, not to mention are usually much finiker than any reloading machine. I have designed machines and devices that are very sophisticated, many used on such thngs as ICBMs, tanks, and ground support equipemnt.

My opionin is that the Dillon 650 is not safe to use to reload 45-70s. It has proven this to me many times. Even using extreem care it loads primers sideways. At least 1 out of 20. THis can NEVER be safe. The machine seems to work fine for smaller cartriges.