Dan in Pasadena, I agree most of us drive our P-cars pretty close to the center line, and those hitting the right or left curbs make things very interesting at times! Myself, I think hearing a lot of ideas and getting some interaction with the curb crashers is a good way to form an opinion or a position. The problem with having an open mind is never knowing when to close it, which is how one gets to be known a fuzzy thinker.