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Originally Posted by Joeaksa
Jeff,
How many years experience do you have in the military?
I rest my case...
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lol, Joe's standard off the shelf answer to anybody discussing anything to do with the military... yet he himself has never been so candid to disclose where he has been in action, it's all .. hush hush... how convenient
if Joe had his way, the military could do whatever the military wants to do, without ever being held responsible for anything that goes wrong...they could never be wrong, never deliver anything but reports that are factual and the real truth beyond a shadow of a doubt
Joe would have loved Germany in the 1939-1942 days, just follow orders blindly, whatever comes down the chain of command is just brilliant doctrine and as such not to be questioned...see where that got them, a 12 year long 1000 year reich, lol
well it's not like that, the military is just as political as politics itself
especially in the twilight zone where politics and military interlink
and if normal citizens are supposedly to stupid to understand war, and the concept of cost/effectiveness whether that be actual monetary cost, or the cost of lives or other cost, or the lack of results
then why the hell should they pay for it, let's go back to the middle ages, let the military go on their quest if they want to , have them loot and pillage whenever they need resources... perhaps that would be a better option, let the politicians that are for it, go along, put Bush and Cheney in cami's, give them an M16 and let them show the way, that's what leaders during the Crusades did , they went over there themself instead of sending over others to do the dirty work
yeah, let's just blatantly accept the words of the military generals, appointed by the chickenhawks in the whitehouse, to be true
they wouldn't dare to be biased in any of their reports now would they
, why oh why , wouldn't they provide a report that makes the "commander in chief" upset...
you can look back to WW2 again, those who didn't tell Hitler what Hitler wanted to hear... see how long they were able to maintain a generals post.. not long, same difference, perhaps not as bad as then, but it goes to show that they are not to be considered "objective" just because they have a cute uniform
look at Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the joint chiefs of staff would have loved to go in guns blazing to finish the job on the ground... luckily Kennedy was more prudent.. if Joe was around in those days, Joe would have been , aah, yeah, let's invade, the JCOS has deemed it necessary so it must be the right thing to do...
your case can rest, because it doesn't have a chance of ever making it