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Roland Kunz Roland Kunz is offline
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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@rice_killer

Well a 2.0 type 4 with 200 HP poweroutput is more expensive then buying a 3.0 SC and fit it into the car.
The best pricecut with a 2,0 is somwhere at 130 HP and after that it is much better to go for a 2,4 type 4. They will make solid 160 HP and if you like to spend more with a reinforced head, case and a 6 stud design you can go up to 3.0 with 250 HP.

NA 200 HP from a 2.0 are only possible if you run them without cooling and other power robing things and will rebuild them between your 1/4 mls runs. Just compare the actuall 996 GT has 360 HP from 3,6 L witch is equal 100 HP /L. A catuall Z06 has 408 HP divided by some 5,7 L thats some 70 HP/L.
To compare the number the 1976 VW Golf GTI had 80 HP/L similar number goes for a 1966 911 2.0 S engine

But you are right most converter canīt use ther fingers and line up all the wight added to the car to make it a WC. Thats around 100 Kg just pluming, cooler and Water. If they have money they go for lightwight parts and also use aluminium heads and manifolds if not a complete aluminum engien.
Yet this will burst the bufget for a "cheap" conversion again.

@steve tatro

Forget the Buick grap get a Rover 3,5 Dual SU - 4,5 EFI and some nice parts. ( OK, the Rover engine is the buick tempest block )

Good thing is they wight lees then the US iron and will give a fair amout of power plus the british empire spend some really good engeneering into it ( OK the waterpumpproblem and other stuff.... ) . Many sportcars base on that engine ( MG, Chinetta, Morgan +8, TVR, ) gives a good selection on race proven parts.

You can pump some serious 250 HP without spending a fortune and if your wallet is refilled you can go for 300*+.

A other benefit is that the engine is a bit shorter and so the rear trany armes have not to be relocatet and you even have space at the firewall.

@Dave

Forget it the powerr fraction donīt cars for handling and braking. The term balanced is used onto there bankaccount and not onto how the car feels or drive.

It is possible to balance a 914 with a american muscle into a competive car but you will hit the same pricesticker like using a similar powered flat 6. The only nice thing on the conversion is to challange the own creativity and go his own way. Most have the background to achive cheap power and only some grazy people will focus a good balanced car.

And like said in the US are no technical regulations to think about and if someone likes to put a V8 in his lawnmower and has some kind of brakes and lights it can be runed on the street in 49 staates. Just donīt drive faster then 55. This thing is funny and has potential to kill many people. Its on the socitiy to decide how much risk and responsibilty a single person can ( should ) bear.

Grüsse
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