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Originally Posted by snowman
The prove there is a God thread has gone flat. Now is the time to PROVE there is a DEVIL. For without a DEVIL there cannot be a GOD.
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More to point, there is no Devil without God. God defined the abstract concept of sin when he punished Adam and Eve for eating the proverbial apple. If God had said something like, "Jeez guys, I told you not eat the god damn fruit, now go and play with the zebras," we wouldn't have such a sucky existence.
You could logically argue that God hates Man using the Bible. It wasn't the Devil who introduced temptation, it was God. God created the groundrules for Man's existence. Did he really need to plant the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden? And let's say he did. OK, first of all, trees bear fruit for one reason: reproduction. if I go to Home Depot, I'm pretty sure they don't have Trees of Knowledge sitting next to the Phycas.
Second, couldn't it have bore pine cones or something similar? Who would be tempted to eat a pine cone?
Third, God doesn't know about fences? that would have kept A&E out.
Lastly, why would an all-knowing God create something so innocently fallible as Man and then place rules around his existence KNOWING he's going to FAIL and be damned for the rest of eternity. does that make any sense at all?
Would you tell your kid not to eat the cookies, nothing more than that, and when he does, his punishment is to be beaten and shouted at every day for the rest of his life? Should this kid still love his parents? Should he ask repeatedly for absolution day after day as the beatings and shouting continue? And even when he BBQ's some chicken for his parents, the fragrance of which is pleasing to them, they still beat him mercilessly. At best they might help him beat up some other kids on the block, maybe promise him ownership of the treehouse in the next door neighbor's yard.
loving God.
