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Originally Posted by snowman
This was from a New Savage model 12 F/TR 0.308 with Leopold Scope Mark III 3.5-10X. Only help was a bi pod and my shoulder. I am not happy with the group though. I have an old Hi Standard 22 target pistol that can match it, on the bench, at 100 yards. I hope to do as well at 500 yards and twice as much dispersion at 1000 yards. with the rifle. Maybe a better load and glass bedding will help?
As to hitting game, at 100 yards or less, it doesn't even require a sight. Just point and shoot.
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I love the new Savage. They have really turned things around in the last 10-15 years and now produce some of the most accurate rifles made. They pretty much dominate the production gun bench classes and the cast bullet matches. Their "accu-trigger" is a godsend in this day and age of 7-8 pound triggers on bolt guns. Funny, who would have ever thought everyone else would be playing catch-up with Savage?
Do you have any experience at 1,000 yards? We used to shoot 3-4 times a summer down at Ft. Lewis on their "KD22" ("known distance" range #22). I'm rather proud to say I'm the reigning Ft. Lewis 1,000 yard black powder champ, shooting my C. Sharps '74 in .45-2.6, having won the last couple of matches fired there. Anyway, I digress. 1,000 yard shooting is a whole 'nother ballgame.
The .308 ain't gonna cut it out there. It cannot handle enough bullet weight at enough velocity to maintain accuracy at that range. It will almost certainly have a 12" twist, which is not fast enough to handle the long, heavy bullets needed for that range. The old '06 is even pretty marginal, with its standard 10" twist and greater case capacity. In .30 caliber, we're looking at one of the magnums like the .300 Winchester, Weatherby, H&H, or similar. The guys winning at that range are using the very heavy for caliber bullets, like in the 200-220 grain range. It takes a big case, loaded on the stout side, to drive those fast enough to remain stable out to 1,000 yards. Your typical 168 grain .308 match loads that do so well out to 600 in hi-power competition are useless at 1,000. I've lost track of how many targets I pulled with beautiful profiles of 168 grain Match Kings in them, as the bullets tumbled and went through sideways. You're going to need more gun. For me, that would be good news...
