[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by cairns

"You don't have clue."

Cobalt while I'm glad you're happy with your car and I wish you the best of luck of with it it is plainly not a vehicle for me and many others.

Attempting to justify it with claims of "100 times" better handling or "60 to 130"
acceleration times leads me to believe you're reading way too much Motor Trend. I'll just skim the towing capabilities- I tow regularly and would not attempt to tow my Porsche in an enclosed trailer in any Cayenne: One, it would exceed the tow weight limitations Porsche places on the vehicle and two, it would be dangerous as hell.

BTW I'm a nationally certified DE instructor for PCA and have driven Cayennes more than a few times- on skid pads and race tracks. As I indicated above they're great handling, powerful SUVs.

But in my, and many others, opinions there are much better values for the money. And as for looks I agree they are subjective. I think the thing is hideous.

Sorry don't read motor trend or the like or do I put much value in them, my comments are from first hand experiences both on and off track . I do not appreciate people mocking a fine product because they don't like the looks or have no personal need. We all can take it or leave it but to mock it because they don't like it is BS. We can all not like something but those opinions are just empty words and do not make the vehicle anything less than it is and it is all Porsche.

I tow my car to and from the track with the Cayenne and it does a better job than my 08 Avalanche with 6.0L motor or my previous Dodge. I agree I would not exceed the vehicles weight in tow however, but it is more than capable and a hell of a lot more comfortable. I use an open trailer and do not exceed 4500 pounds but dangerous with that load it is not. The Cayenne has better brakes and stability with this load than either of my other 2 trucks.

Looks are subjective and to me it looks like a large 996 which I find to be Porsche's down turn in styling, although they are actually making great strides with the 997. I might not like it as much as my 94 turbo but I still think it is better than most. I have driven the Cayenne on the skid pad and have seen others do quite well on the track at DE events, even had one with 4 passengers do a fabulous time at an autocross event and although many will say it does not belong there they do quite well. Show me any like SUV type vehicle that can hold a candle to the Cayenne's performance. I live in a densely populated area and prefer the performance and abilities over anything else I have tried which is about everything.

I only used the comments about speed and handling against such comments as this.

IMO these are some of the worst things Porsche ever produced- ugly, catastrophic resale value, unreliable and audio/electronics (and other basic features) that are years behind Mercedes/BMW or Japanese. Not a great SUV and certainly not a great Porsche

UGLY subjective catastrophic resale value Far better than the 996 unreliable not true show me the proof, audio/electronics (and other basic features) that are years behind Mercedes/BMW or Japanese Oh please. I owned BMW's MB sorry won't buy Japanese. I never purchased a Porsche for its gadgets just performance. If i wanted a car that parked itself I would buy a Lexus but i will leave that to the rest of the world that can't drive. Maybe better yet they should install BMW's I drive system LOLNot a great SUV and certainly not a great Porsche Say what?? What makes it a bad SUV it can outperform both on and off road far better than the Range Rover or the like. IMO it is Porsche through and through, it drives and feels like one and if driving just about every Porsche imaginable for 25 years doesn't give me some credibility and owning most at one point in time than what does??? Personal opinion about looks?

Not trying to compare it to a GT3 RS although it serves a purpose and the BS attitude it gets is no worse than all the years I heard the 911 owners rank on the 928 guys. My GTS is still an exceptional car to this day. How many years did I hear the 914's cut down and called VW's. The Cayenne is getting the same treatment and although not for everyone does not deserve to be cast aside because it is a Porsche without racing heritage.

I have been driving 911's for over 25 years seen it all. Helped import over 70 911's during the grey market in the 80's, have driven just about every type car imaginable at the time. Spent my years on the track back in the 80's and have just finally had the time to get back into it. Owned numerous Porsche's and cars other than those listed and can tell you that although you don't like it which is your prerogative, the comments made regarding its engines and issues are inaccurate and inappropriate.