[RWebb]

I know EXACTLY what Paul was talking about, but I think it related to a particular person in this local group, not to R-gruppe as a whole. Certainly, several other members I've met don't act like that.

Paul also inserted some economic class separation language (and imagine! he thinks I'm a liberal). The cost to fix up or even buy these cars has gone way way up in the last decade or two. Some people work on their cars themselves (sometimes, not always, for economic reasons); others will pay big $$ to have the car prepped for them. Rgruppe contains both types. All these cars are increasingly being bought by people with a lot of $$ - whether they are hot rods or concoursey cars or just an early driver. There is no way to 'fix' that unless you are waiting for the impending economic crash (at least in these cars) - I guess Paul & I both are doing that.

I initially brought up the Black Audi Wagon as a joke. People & groups should be able to joke at themselves, tho I wasn't there when the Black Audi spoiled a yearly photo op. Rgruppe had reserved a parking lot just to take the annual ducks in a row pic, but a traffic cone had been moved and the Audi had intruded into an open space. It got elevated a bit out of context -- nobody stared to death by a warlord, or killed by an IED...