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Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

If you look you will see that I have given each of the builders credit where credit is due, ALL of them. You don't find post here from me stating that Tim's product isn't worth buying, will be high maintainence, etc., and I sure as heck think David Roberts' product is a very nice piece of work.

Neither did I John – I am simply pointing out known issues with turbo setups. The same as you towards supercharger setups. I NEVER said anything negative towards your kit or anything you have produced.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

But please tell your friends to not insult me by saying my system is unproven or can't perform to the levels of a CS car on the same pressure levels. Those statements are simply not true.

To be fair John, Three cars (of which two are owned by you and your brother) is hardly proven. I’m not saying it isn’t going to work or be successful. But hardly proven.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Erik, you are free to come to my place anytime for a ride in my car.

That same offer has been on the table for you to come to Green Bay (or the Hell GTG) for the past four years.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Did I ever say any other system didn't have good road manners Erik? Please don't twist around everything I say to be a negative towards you or your friends and/or their products.

In recent posts? No. In the past? Yes you have. Sorry if I’m not going to dig through the archives of Rennlist to find these posts. If they haven’t been deleted.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

As I said, yes the turbo car does likely see more heat on the valves, but it is no the order of magnitude you would like it to be.

I was simply pointing out a FACT that when most manufacturers (like Porsche) turbo a car they usually reinforce the head and/or the valves to combat the heat. Anyone can take this any way they want – it is a big concern to me.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

I'm unclear on why a bunch of guys who are all supercharger are so interested in making negative statements on twin turbo pricing.

It’s called speculation, it happens on the internet. Look a bit closer, a few people who made predictions on pricing are not on either side. I don’t see why this offends you so much. So what if it ends up costing more?

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Only I know my costs, labor time and what profit margin I want to make.

I do wish you the best of luck. That is the truth. Just wish the “baggage” from the past four yeas didn’t have to come along for the ride. Sorry John – there are enough of us here that have been around a long time who remember the attacks from you in the past.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

There is nobody else who knows this information and anyway Erik, why does it matter to you to begin with, you already said you didn't want one, right?

Actually your memory is fuzzy – search your e-mail’s. I talked to you a few times when I was starting my 81 project about putting YOUR turbo setup on m 79 track car.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Please extend me the courtesy of actually releasing the pricing before you and your friends jump all over me about it.

What fun would that be? Then don’t release any info until it’s 100% complete then

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

That is "reactionary" and exactly what I was referring to.

I know your history on this topic and it’s a fact that unless every post is 100% positive towards yours setup, you take it as a personal attack. It’s even worse if one of those people just happen to have a supercharged car. I really wish we could get over this.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

People who don't want to cut the body won't buy the product, but either way is has no impact on you whatsoever, so why even make the statement?

Oh, I see. Since I’m not a potential customer I’m not allowed to comment? Nice.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

You and your friends reacted to my results Erik, it is so obvious.

No kidding – take it as a compliment. Enjoy the attention. Nope, not you. Just something new to ***** about.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

I can't even put an ad on E-bay without you and your posse attacking me on it on some stupid internet forum.

You must be kidding – you even crap on free advertising. So now you blame “us” for the auction not selling? Get a grip John. Talk about delusional.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Grow up for Pete's sake, everybody knows your game here Erik.

You want to talk about “growing up” John? Really? Do you want me to post the e-mail messages that took place between you, your brother, an myself? What “game” are you playing then? Being called a liar, saying I’m lying to people, falsifying dyno charts, lying about engine configuration…..does that ring a bell John?
Funny how the ONLY place your brother could have received that e-mail address was from YOU.
Yes I took that personal. That was way over the line John. If you had something to say to me, have the guts to say it yourself. Don't sent in your brother.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

No joke, I often wonder if you guys are on a sales commission plan.

You send me accusations via the disguise and cloak of e-mail messages you know I will not post publicly. Then you turn around and make BS statements like this in a public forum. Well played.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

The 2.7has virtually zero lag

You admit it has lag. It is too much for me.

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Again guys, I do appreciate you coming here to have this debate, I really do.

That is refreshing to hear, somewhat.

Just to repeat myself here. You really need to re-read my posts (and many others) since I did not see (could have missed it) where anyone was ripping on anything specifically you have created. I did take a jab at Callaway, I cannot help it if you took that personally.

Good luck John. Selling a good product is only 10% the actual product. The rest is you.

I love 928's, that is well known and I applaud anything that enhances the performance of any 928. Even a pair of turbo’s.

If you really want to “bury the hatchet” on all of this BS – you first.
No more BS posts about false dyno runs or fabricated dyno sheets.
When YOU start using 3-4 different dyno’s to verify results (like we do up here) let me know.

Funny thing is, Tim has been sick as a dog the past week or so and I think he's missed all the fun going on between the threads.

Chow