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NO juice just the noise that old men make when trying to recapture the magic of youth.
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eh.. not all old men subscribe to this...Tony Bennett for example, improved his voice with age. Listening to him, for example on the 1974 Bill Evans / Tony Bennett album vs. how he has sounded in the past 10-15 years, he is much smoother, better sounding than he did in the 70s...
but maybe that was the drugs back then too?
early Zep