[svandamme]

Wayne, that's what i told him , impossible to calculate with a simple linear formula, he kept saying no, no no, it all doesn't matter, it's just the sink rate
doesn't matter if you take a block of ice 10x10x10 feet, or a narrow cyllinder, 1 feet across , 10 feet high...

that's what pissed me off, i know i'm not a uni grad, but i'm not to stupid to use my imagination, and imagine what factors might affect this whole ordeal,

and once i came up with a number of variables, it seemed pretty clear to me that you just can't calculate this, let alone calculate it with a simple formula.

this regelation thing might even be true, i'm not debating that, i just think it's effect is marginal to say the least, compared to all the other factors

0.0072 C degree decrease in melting point for every ATM increase in pressure?

PAA-LEEEASE what are we talking about here when the subject applying pressure weighs something like, i dunno, 150 grams??

(if anybody has a 997 key with him, and a small scale at hand, for ****'s&giggles)


i agree Noah, it's a guestimation lottery
even if the formula was reasonably accurate to use, it'de still boil down to luck, maybe it would narrow the playing field a bit

but as it stands, there's not enough data, and not enough computing power to actually narrow it with enough accuracy to rely on...


Lube, the dude insists that external temp has no influence on this sink rate inside, argument is , that the external temp never get's to go that deep in the ice, as the ice absorbs it on the outside, now i can agree to some extent with that... but as ice is translucent, the solar energy does penetrate... and that's another one of those things that's near impossible to calculate

then there is ice quality
what water was used? de-mineralized water?
how old was that ice? i know that in sweden they have an ice hotel, they cut the ice blocks in spring, to use em next winter, so the ice settles... is that a factor in this setup? who knows?

this small scale thing is probably the most realistic to calculate the melting of the whole block
but regarding the keys, the smaller scale you go, the more inaccurate you can measure/extrapolate the key behaviour, so that's no good either
and it still doesn't cover the variables of a block of ice on a market place, exposed to the elements...