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Two major problems with engineering:

Management styles in most companies don't allow the opportunity for those "go getters" to be really proactive and aggressive with their thinking. This drives those engineers to move into other roles such as consulting or buisness owners.

Most companies now are low balling the market to lower costs. In salary, raises, and true goal driven bonus programs. This drives out those that want to move forward with their careers and keeps the every day non innovative people in place. It also forces HR to lower costs so they get inexperenced people right out of school, which is just a stepping stone. And they fill engineering roles with people that have non-engineering related degrees.

All in all I feel engineering has slowly progressed into a non-technical group, especially in the automotive environment. It is easy for everyone to pick up a phone and outsource problems to some sort of supplier. More engineers end up being nothing more than a project manager instead of a problem solver. Another bad thing I have experienced, is that most in management have very little technical background. This makes it hard to provide clear goals and structure to a group of engineers.