[stomachmonkey]

Try this, you are out for a celebration, it's dark, you may be tired and have had a couple so you're not thinking 100%.

You get into a thing with someone you don't know.

Get into your car to go, look up to see guys with guns, probably someone in the car yells, "oh **** get outa here" you can picture the rest.

I think something very similar happened on cops side. Late night bust in a place with known bad guys. No comfort being a cop cause the bad guys don't know you are one.

You go to check out some suspicious party and they take off on you. No time to think, "do they know I'm a cop", is that a chance you can take?

I think it's an unfortunate tragedy and no one is really to blame. Sometimes this **** just happens.

Now on the b party. Any of you do the bowling ball thing to your buddies?

Get a bowling ball, couple of feet of chain link, a lock. Bolt the chain to the ball and when he's good and trashed lock the ball on his ankle for the night.