[Sapporo Guy]

Hmmm, ok,

I think you guys (Chris and Matt) do have good points and very valid too.

I think the problem is that there are hard timers and those that really are down on their luck.
"hard timers" being those who really don't want to do anything because they prefer the free help with no need to change or do better.
Could the hard timers be the ones that you guys are referring too?

So, that would mean the system needs to filter each by their needs and adjust the methods to deal with each.

Yes, criminals exist at all levels of the social scale.
But I think cold turkey methods could provoke people enough to just switch over to praying on people rather than praying on free handouts.