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Originally Posted by Joeaksa View Post
Guess you need to call me small minded then.

I fly to France often, usually every week or so when on duty. There is something called the Shenigan visa in Europe. It allows people to travel freely between the EEC countries.

There is also another thing called the "English required ATP" where all commercial pilots who fly in EEC airspace have to be able to speak English good enough to preform their duties.

I have been checked on both of these many times in the last couple of years. Guess where I have been checked? Frigging FROGS in France are the only ones who feel that they have to enforce the rules of the EEC and try to find pilots who do not have the visa's then detain them at the airport. They now check and try to trip up every American pilot coming into the country. I really piss them off when I show them my AMERICAN passport with a unlimited GERMAN residence and work visa in it, so that they cannot hassle me any futher.

Oh yea, they also are now the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE EEC who are requiring pilots to have it stamped on their pilots license confirming that they speak English. Its not good enough to be from England or the UK, or America where everyone speaks English, the FROGS are forcing every pilot in the world to do this or they get detained. Remember, this is the only country in the world doing this.

Funny thing, that its only the Frogs who do this when their Air Traffic Controllers refuse to follow the ICAO rules and speak french to their pilots, then attempt to speak English to the rest of us. Problem is that those of us who do not speak frog cannot understand what the controller just told the other airplane, and at times it creates a very difficult safety issue.

This is the pot calling the kettle black here son. I would tread lightly, very lightly. The flight crews of the world are really torqued off at the FROGS right now, and just wait until we get some of their flight crews in our country. Payback will be a long time coming and well deserved.
So this bureaucratic nonsense is the excuse to insult and tell lies about one of America's greatest allies? OK. Yes, you are small minded.

If you knew French bureaucracy you would know they apply this type of nit-picking to every area of their lives. That is part and parcel of their system (the French are famous for the level of bureaucratic delays) It is not just to you or just to Americans.

And your “solution” is to make life difficult for them when they (the flight crews?) are over in America? Wow, now that is quite mature.

Let’s not use school-yard insults just to prop up our sense of patriotism.
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