David, what I meant by the "tires rolling off the car sideways" was sidewall flex, or stiffness.
Noah (and Buck and Jazz adn Harlequin),
I did not mean to sound so argumentative before. I guess I just took your comments the wrong way (lack of sleep on my end perhaps).
I don't discount what you all said. I guess the problem might be that we got too focused on street tires. I do not know if I completely buy the 5 tire test theory Noah. I am no race car driver, but I think most people who enjoy driving could notice some differences in the performance of different tires, even on the street, even in the same class of tires. This does not mean that the tire is being pushed to it's max potential either (my example of the local cloverleaf exit was only meant to be one example, and in fact, meant ot be a lessor case example - if my sidewall is flexing at 35 mph around a cloverleaf ramp, whatis it going to do if I am ever in the situation - on the street - where I am forced to swerve out of the way of something). That is why on the
suggested[/COLOR] questions to consider, I asked things like overall rating track use
and overall rating street use. It was not meant to be a track or street only deal from the start. Not all of us here track the cars. Some just want to know
it is there if you need
it.
Again, sorry that I made more of this than it might have been today... it was not my intention. Perhaps different criteria should have been used, but then I did ask for suggestions.
Street tires, for me, are all about safety. Many things go into that as you know. Some of the other things people like to know is how noisy a tire is, or what the ride comfort is. The thread again, was not meant to be science, but a gathering of opinions about different tires people have tried out on a 911. I guess I only viewed my suggestions for criteria to comment on as basic information and opinoin, and not so much "fine grained analysis". I just trust more of your opinions when it comes to stuff like this than other associations I have.
So, I appreciate your comments. I hope you understand mine better now and no offense was taken.
Warm regards friends...