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Originally Posted by island911
I believe that is a false premise. We are not there to "save Iraqis." We are there to promote stability in the region; which in turn helps keep the machinery of the civilized world going.
The thing that gets me is the void of reasonable ideas that come from the 'anti-war' crowd. They don't, or can't extrapolate what will happen to the region if the west pulls out leaving an unstable Iraq. They want to only focus on the well intentioned myopic result of "our guys are home." But what happens to our home/ our world if pissed at the world / pissed at the ME oil Royals OBL and his ilk set the region on fire? (ala Saddam pulling out of Kuwait ) What if Iran fills the void of Iraq, and then keeps on taking more of the region?
Art, you claim the region are a bunch of "People who refuse to be civilized and insist upon living in a tribal environment will never have a peaceful country."
So is this then a good group to have so much money that they can buy what ever nukes they want?
Our troops are doing so much more than the simplistic model of events laid out by those uncomfortable with conflict.
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what are you thinking trying to persuade using reason?
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Originally Posted by DARISC
What do you see as reasonable ideas from the "pro-war" crowd? Is there a void there also?
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while I am certain you would disagree, I think he may just be referring to the fact that none of the "get all the troops out today" folks appear to appreciate the potential downside to doing this. They don't seem to look at the situation realistically.
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Originally Posted by Snapper33
My opinion - Yes. Read it and form your own opinion if you'd like. For the most part I see a lot of posts arguing points that are not on track with the reality of why we are in Iraq.
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about 90% minimum