[9dreizig]

Ok well then , there's a program called cross loop that is free and if there's someone online here ( I'm sure there is) you two could just download it and they can then take control of your computer and find that in a few seconds.. Do you have a dell ? If so I know with mine the program that manages the networks is a Dell utility and even though you've got the MS utility there, unless you specify it as the manager the Dell one takes over ( called Dell Wireless LAN utility)..