[m21sniper]

I do not believe the US gov't has any intention of pulling out of Iraq in any case, under any circumstances.

I don't think us being in Iraq has to do with us winning anymore. I think it has to do with us getting long term basing rights on Iraqi soil.

I believe that viewed objectively, we are as close to an actual victory as we're going to get, and withdrawal should begin. The Iraqi Gov't and Army is ready to stand on it's own, and i believe our continued presence only fans the flames of discontent and resentment. Time to go, long term basing is a double edged sword at best. If we leave today, we can at this point honestly claim victory in Iraq tomorrow.

IMO, of course.

PS: Iraq's neighbors will not sit by and let Iran take it over. I actually suspect Saudi Arabia would prefer to see us stay so we can (once again) take care of their regional security concerns for them.