[speeder]

Among the many things that some people will never learn is this: wanting is usually better than having. Being a working guy with toys, like most on this board, but still having dream cars that are out of reach, is better than being filthy rich and having everything. I know, and have known, people with millions a year to spend in interest alone who are miserable columns of human waste. They could buy Seinfeld's Porsche collection with their lunch money, but, alas, are busy OD'ing on heroin instead.

What's the point, big painter? We are enthusiasts who keep score with our DIY skill and taste in cars, not by how much car payment the bank will let us have. People with REAL money do not talk about their cars, period, and yes this thread is offensive and just really asinine. You are not "livening things up"; there is a standard of wit, civility and brotherhood around here that you would do well to aspire to instead of a shiny new car. MY .02.