[snowman]

I think the primer feed system is where the problem is with the 650. The company and everyone else is looking at everything but where the problem actually happens. Looking at the primer feed mechanism separately, it dosen't seem possible for a problem to occur there, but there it is, primers jamming and flipping, and exploding. My photo of an upset primer was just luck, but there it is and it is EXACTLY what we are looking for.

Thinking back to earlier primer problems, just prior to the explosions, I had primers jamming up in the primer wheel. The primers did not drop out if they passed the loading stage. The primer feed ratchet mechanism was jamming and missing engagement with the next hole (partly because there was a primer in the hole that should have not been there) sometimes for no apparent reason. There is clearly a problem in this area of the machine.

Please, no more BS comments that do not contribute to the function of the machine, you all have already demonstrated that you have no clue as to the operation of a 650.

A machine that has clear able jams is one thing, one that leaves holes in your ceiling is another.

My hero, GW Bush, has a saying, it ain't over till its over, you can't put a time frame on some things.