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also - the word around here is that kbb is way high these days on price. The market for this type of car is very very soft. High maint. not great mpg.. has a v8 and people are now a avoiding v8's like the plague.. I would not pay one dime over $8k for that car. If you get it put aside min. $200/mo. for maintenance. Another thought... the people that buy these types of cars new are not "car" people... in other words they don't over maintain... if you are lucky they got the services on the miles listed and if something broke they got it fixed under warranty. They tend to be drive until something breaks then fix type of people.
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