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there are 2 kinds of voters in this country. ones who look at the last 8 years and like what they see. they are for:

corporate socialism at the expense of the middle class
52% of Americans owned stock in 2005, up from 19% in 1983. Move people into IRAs, and 401Ks and support the companies that beef up those retirement benefits. That's a better plan than the pyramid scheme that is Social Security.

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weaker allied relationships around the world
The world changes. Expect the EU to be doing their own thing soon enough. NATOs time has passed.

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over-stretched military
Was over-stretched under Clinton and Clinton drastically reduced the size of the military. Which is worse? As long as most Americans believe that we have a need to protect our interests abroad, they will be thin. Get used to it. PS. we're still in Kosovo too you know.

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borrowing beyond our means to keep our economy afloat, our children and their children will pay it back, no worries
They all do it and no one likes it. Don't just blame Bush for this. There has been a Dem congress for a while now. I don't see frugality running rampant in DC.

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the weakest economy seen since the Great Depression
Interest rates under Carter were as high as 21.5%. Inflation as over 10%/yr. Gas prices were higher than they are now adjusted for inflation. Growth was less than 1%. They created a word just for him; Stagflation.

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continued dependence on non-renewable energy sources
This is a great one. The democrats and environmental lobby have blocked all new nuclear power plants in this country. It's been over 35 years since the last plant broke ground. Wind and sun won't do it. How do you propose to keep 300 million people with a standard of living that they like without carbon or nuclear fuel?

So what if oil is non-renewable (not that I think it is but), so we run out. Then what? Does the sky fall then?

AFAIK, the Earth as a decent example of a closed system. Carbon is carbon, it just may take different forms.


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and those that want more for America.
More what? Be specific?
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