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"Unchanging mass" over what period of time? "Out of spec" based on what period of time?
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I would suppose since metorlogical data started being collected back in the 1800's. We are just entering the enlightened age of worldwide data(may it be kept safely away from being altered by the next neocon presidency).
It's still only a couple hundred years of observed data, but carbon dating newly exposed frozen fauna would also probably be substantial evdence of historical consistency. I'm not a scientist of course.
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Back to the original point of this thread; there is more ice at the Arctic this year vs. last year and the Antarctic extent is growing, albeit by small amounts. The images posted in the original article showing more ice this year vs. last year in the Arctic are correct (they were from NASA I believe). I'll admit and agree it is almost meaningless by way of the time frame, but so is a snapshot of a hundred or even thousand years or so . . .
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That may be so. I'll trust an unaltered photo from space more than someones opinion.
The trade winds and ocean current patterns are believed to be changing as a result, and rapid shifts(the key word here) in systems will quickly change local weather systems, plants, and wildlife. Not very conservative to the old ways.
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Climate change is as real as it ever was. Whether or not humans have anything to do with it is not that big a deal, IMHO. Humans still need to figure out ways to not pollute the planet and ways to create more energy from sustainable and clean sources.
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I agree with at least baby steps for a start. Some are vehemently opposed to the concept. I would prefer we adapt as a society rather than break, but time will tell.