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1 aircraft carrier is about as useful as a track car with no spare parts. A minimum of 3 flat tops is required to keep a permanent long term presence -anywhere- even in your own waters.
The French know this and work in cooperation with the British Navy, including plans for new British carriers. Also they have cooperated with the US Navy several times on operations. So your “brilliant” (but well known to all parties) insight is not required.

The C. Degaulle (which has been plagued with problems since day 1) is little more than a showpiece.
Although it has had some problems it has been fully operational since March 5, 2001. Some US Navy ships have had far more difficulties to get to full operational status. But, of course, you don’t know that!
Showpiece only? Not according to the US Navy. Several combined operations have been accomplished without difficulties with high marks awarded to the French from the US Navy. But, of course, you know better.


Who are they going to nuke intercontinentally?
Canada?
All france 'needs' is IRBMs. Their ICBM program is a testament to their national hubris, and a total waste of money.
This is where you lack of strategic knowledge shows up clearly, just because you cannot conceive of a use doesn’t mean the French have your limitations. France had developed a nuclear triad just like the US and for the same reasons. Currently France has SSBM and Mirage 2000 N nuclear delivery systems. BTW, I and France are so happy to hear you think we waste our money it helping to defend the free world.

China has been in the UN security council since it's inception as well. I guess you're gonna argue they were a world power too? Perhaps recently, but that was hardly the case in it's inception.
France, like China, is a regional power.
Not according to the current US intelligence reports. Look it up. France’s Navy and Air Force has the ability to project power globally to a far greater extent than China could or can at this time. You really need to learn so much about the world; it’s not even funny anymore.
Yes well as long as the french are around we'll always be safe from those brutes in Angola and those evil Green Peacers.
So do you want them to start calling the Taliban, Angola bruts and Osama Bin Laden, Green Peacers? Your village is calling, they want their idiot back.
Source: Wikipedia
Afghanistan: Mission Héracles
On November 21, 2001, France decided to send Charles de Gaulle to the Indian Ocean in support of Operation Enduring Freedom against Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. Task Force 473, with 2900 men under the command of Contre-Amiral François Cluzel, sailed on 1 December. The task force was comprised of Charles de Gaulle, frigates La Motte-Picquet, Jean de Vienne and Jean Bart, the nuclear attack submarine Rubis, the tanker Meuse and the aviso Commandant Ducuing.
Embarked air power comprised sixteen Super Étendards, one E-2C Hawkeye, two Rafale Ms and several helicopters. The Super Étendards carried out their first missions above Afghanistan on 19 December, executing reconnaissance and bombing missions, covering over 3,000 kilometres. Overall they carried out 140 missions, averaging 12 every day, dodging five Stinger missiles.


Charles de Gaulle (right) and USS Enterprise, the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
On February 18, 2002, a Helios observation satellite spotted abnormal activities near Gardez. The next day, after American Special Forces in the region confirmed these observations, Charles de Gaulle launched two reconnaissance Super Étendards. On the 20th, British and US forces entered the valley and "Operation Anaconda" began in early March.
In March, Super Étendards and six Mirage 2000 aircraft carried out airstrikes against targets claimed to be al Qaeda. A few targets suggested by US forces were denied out of fear of hitting civilians. Nevertheless, French involvement was complimented by the US President George W. Bush on 2002-03-11, mentioning "our good ally, France, has deployed nearly one-fourth of its navy to support Operation Enduring Freedom".[3] At this point, the French air complement had been increased to 16 Super Étendards, 6 Mirage 2000 D, 5 Rafales, and two Hawkeye AWACS. From February, the air wings of Charles de Gaulle and USS John C. Stennis landed on each other's decks as a means of strengthening the ties between the allies.
On 2 May, Charles de Gaulle arrived in Singapore for relief and returned to Oman on 18 May.
Indian-Pakistani crisis
In June 2002, according to several reports,[4][5] while Charles de Gaulle was in the Arabian Sea, armed Rafale fighters participated in interposition patrols near the India-Pakistan border, marking a significant point in the Rafale M's operational career and its integration with the carrier. A number of sources have speculated on the exact nature and purpose of these flights.[6]
Rescue mission
On 9 October, the CrossMed (Regional Operational Center for Monitoring and Rescue in Mediterranean Sea) received a distress call on the 8-metre Babolin, whose hull was leaking. Charles de Gaulle, on maneuvers in the region, sent a helicopter that airlifted the three-man crew, despite 35-knot (65 km/h) wind, troubled sea, and bad visibility.
Continuing operations
Charles de Gaulle participated in further actions as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in 2005. It returned to Southwest Asia in May 2006 and shortly after supported coalition efforts over Afghanistan. The aircraft carrier regularly participates in the annual bilateral naval exercises between the Indian and French navies[7] called 'Varuna'.[8]
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