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Jeff,

If that's how you view it then you are either in the wrong part of town (or country)...or you are doing something wrong...

Either way we may have the same job but we sure as hell don't do the same work..

But then again its all about making sure all of those guys buy into your ideas and accept what you are proposing... I happily spend my life drawing my designs away and making sure I have a story to bring every one in line...

JM...

Your buddy needs to do the same...bring his neighbours along with his ideas..make sure they understand and agree with what he is doing..

That is the majority of the skill and talent in getting anything built...regardless of the design..