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I thought it looked like he took them off as well, so I watched that few seconds several times. If he did take them off, he did it one handed. That would be hard to do.
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I'm thinking they
might've been using the big double-cuffed industrial zip ties. Some of our cops around here use them. With one of those tactical folder knives that pretty much all cops carry, they can be removed almost instantly with a quick flip of the wrist.
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And why, if they had no idea they were being filmed, would he take them off, only to put them back on again? He would have just left them on. No, that guy was not cuffed.
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I think they probably must have realized they were being filmed. I think i read somewhere that as many as 12 people captured it on video? It would be hard for a trained policeman to miss 12 people with cellphone cameras out.
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It's bad enough as it is; that video (and the others) are extremely damning. The cop murdered the guy.
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Well you have at least made a reasonable argument the guy wasn't cuffed, so we can agree to disagree until it's found out definitively, but again you're 100% correct- it is totally irrelevant really, it was a really bad shooting. No lawful justification whatsoever.
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People do not die instantly when hit by a bullet. Claiming his arms would have relaxed and fallen immediately to his side as he died is the commentator's ploy to stir things up even more so than they already are.
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I am rather thinking that he would've reacted by flinching or throwing his arms outward, or reaching up to try and nurse the wound in the immediate aftermath, but he doesn't do any of that. The arms just remain in the interlaced rear position and don't move at all. Now perhaps he just didn't react AT ALL to being shot in the back, but i find that highly unlikely. We'll find out soon enough, i guess. I am sure if there is any way at all that they can portray it as such, they'll swear the cuffs were not on him, and he was 'still resisting'.
Just imagine had there been no cameras present, how the cops would've spun this. The cop in question would probably have been written up as a hero and given a commendation for bravery.... :-/
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He is either an idiot who has no idea what happens when some one gets shot, or he is hoping his audience are idiots. He is running a blog and just trying to add shock value to get more hits. This incident doesn't need that; the truth looks bad enough.
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I agree the guy seems like a skin headed racist anti-gov't type, however, he had nice a nice clear slow mo video of the incident, and SOME of what he says makes perfect sense.
One would expect that when shot in the back one would flail their arms out, or at least flinch, or go unconscious/into shock and have them sag, or perhaps even convulse/twitch a bit.
But to just stay in place, and not move at all? Seems highly unlikely to me....but then, i have never executed anyone at point blank range before, so i admit i am just hypothesizing.
