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Originally Posted by MMARSH
I get so annoyed at people stating as fact things that are not true. The above statement is not true. Maybe in Philly, but not in California.
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It is in fact true here, i am therefore STUNNED if Ca PD departmental policies (if not the law itself) doesn't require a triple retention holster. Stunned. They are designed to save cops (and citizens, after the fact) lives by preventing their firearm being taken away, or falling out of their holster during strenuous activity. Even our ACT235(armed guards) are mandated to use them here in PA/NJ area. I had assumed that this was nationwide, but i will take your word for it. IMO it should be changed to law in Ca too though.
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Originally Posted by MMARSH
How does something like this happen......Stress. really unfortunate.
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I am sorry, i must differ- it was not caused by stress- all of those cops were (rightfully) stressed, yet only one drew (let alone discharged) his weapon. What caused that shooting was negligence and incompetence. Stress was definitely a factor, but it was stress combined with negligence and incompetence that elevated the situation to manslaughter.
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Originally Posted by MMARSH
Sniper, I do agree with you about the Manual Safety. Alot of agenices(mine included) are not authorized Glocks because of the lack of manual safety
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A lot of cops, soldiers and citizens feel exactly the same way as you and i on this topic. It's just common sense, IMO.
I hate glocks. Soon after they were chosen by our local PD a detective told me that the rate of AD's had increased threefold vs the previous .357 revolvers our cops were issued. Short, light triggers with no safety are a very bad combonation- IMO. Personally, i feel the .357 magnum is a much better caliber for police work than 9mm is anyway. To me it was a retrograde step in adopting the Glock 9mm. Just recently the Philly PD is allowing our cops to carry .40 cal glocks as optional. I like the caliber, but not the platform.
At any rate, if after reading all my posts the most egregious error you saw was that i stated it's law in Ca to use Triple retention holsters (which is in fact the case here in Pa and in NJ), i can live with it.
My "qualifications", I was an Infantryman back in my "yute". In the 2 decades since i ETS'd i have at various times been a subpoena agent, a repossessor, a bail recovery agent and a private investigator (these are all really the same job, the only variance is what you do when you find the person you're looking for). So i have had a lot of experience with carrying weapons in the street, sometimes in highly charged situations.
Never been a cop, i wouldn't want the job. My dad was a Philly PD Narcotics cop though, and my 1st Repo partner is now a Philly PD patrolman.
I do not claim to be an expert in any way shape or fashion, but i do have a lot of 'street' and firearms experience.
PS: Stay safe MMarsh.