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Originally Posted by carnutzzz View Post
Why not discuss moving to a better part of the country? Frankly, you live in a state that fosters and promotes the criminal element by tolerating illegal aliens while enacting laws that make it difficult for homeowners to defend themselves.

Most of us just wont feel too bad about Californians feeling "unsafe" to be honest. Nothing personal- but you lie in the bed you made and all that.

Find a nice town in real America and sleep peacefully.
Depending on where you're talking about, this is a wet dream. A myth. I've lived in nice midwestern small cities that had much bigger burglary and property theft problems than L.A. I've lived in L.A. for 26 years, in many different 'hoods and with the exception of one stolen VW bug many years ago, I've never been the victim of any kind of crime.

Now I realise that there is luck involved in that but not much. I don't conduct my life like the ideal victim. No one deliberately does, but many people never give it any thought. Guns and dogs can be dangerous things in the hands of the wrong people. Both require quite a bit more understanding than what's being displayed here. "Just get a big dog", etc. I don't think that anyone who is not a good *dog person* should own a dog, period. Far too many people have dogs that should not have them. When you start talking about non-dog people getting protection type dogs, the potential calamity really multiplies. Same with guns. Same with motorcycles, but I digress.

The problem with property crime is that it does not happen so much in rough, low-income parts of town. Everything is generally dead-bolted or bolted down in those 'hoods, and people will shoot you for stealing. Where DD lives is a pretty nice, suburban-type neighborhood with white picket fences and kids playing outside. Burglary has always been a HUGE problem in Mpls., where I grew up, going back to WW2 at least. And you can't even begin to imagine a whiter, more upscale and educated city. (Back then). Predominantly Scandinavian and Lutheran, mostly great citizens but perfect victims for burglars as well. Our house got hit in the '60s pretty bad, (wedding silver, jewelry, etc.), then just in recent years my parents house got cleaned-out during the winter when they are out-of-state. Someone must have backed a van in the driveway because they took valuable antique furniture, (family heirlooms in some cases), these thieves knew just what they were after because they left behind less-valuable stuff.

There are other reasons to live in fly-over country if you choose but this ain't really one of them, IMO. Unlike Milt, PoP and others here, I generally love living in L.A. I like it more and more as I get older, or maybe just appreciate the perfect climate. No place is perfect but I'd much rather be depressed here than in the middle of Ohio or something.

The reasons that people love L.A. or NYC would probably not resonate for people who are happy in a rural or suburban setting. There are millions living in a suburban setting in L.A. county who would also not feel the same way about city living as me. Suffice it to say that I know a lot more interesting people and have a lot more fun than I would if I lived somewhere else. I know this for a fact. With little or no downside, for me anyways. When I leave L.A., I can't wait to get home.

Sorry for the hijack, just needed to clear that up.
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