[ramonesfreak]

Jeff did you have a look at the new 848? im lusting for that bike. the nearest dealer is 100 miles from me...so, im not too tempted. the service intervals are almost to japanese standards these days so i wouldnt be so worried if i did buy one.....still, having to take your bike 100 miles for service is ridiculous

when i was in college, 1990, for a business/marketing class i did a project on harley davidson..cant remember much of the project, but i did alot of research. the dealerships changed dramatically about 19 years ago. in an effort to survive. if they hadnt done it, they would be gone now

they are obviously marketing to folks with money who are mainstream and want to feel safe, clean and special. in some way, i can appreciate that give the insane prices they ask for their bikes

when i think of what i paid for my sportster 883 back in 2002, i cant believe it. a neat bike, but dear god what a dog it was. to get a new modern harley worth keeping, you are well over 20 grand. no thanks.... but think about it, how many of us can justify a 20K motorcycle? those that can, expect a country club like atmosphere

i could buy 2 ducati 848s for the price of a night train out the door after taxes and the necessary pipe upgrade