[lonewolf]

Thanks
sleep thing not happening.
doc told me to hang my head over the edge of the bed and do it that way .
trouble is ,way I see it that even with the docs help there is no guarantee that it will fix it and once you hang your head down it can happen REALLY fast and then you are looking at ,at least a few hours of that lousy feeling.I won't try it again without some gravol handy.
John, something off the shelf sounds good to me !