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This is just the tip of the iceberg. It's a heated discussion between unions and management, and my bloodpressure goes up, just thinking about it.

As for the stall...he overrode the stickpusher. Period.

However, not all stalls require you to push the stick forward, ie: tailplane icing. In a tailplane icing situation, you'd actually pull back on the yoke. NASA's done studies on this, and I believe it was mentioned in the previous thread.


I hate to see the loss of life in this accident. As a Check Airman though, this is the kind of stuff that gets my skin crawl. When I bust somebody out of a PC, I know it's for the best. This guy had failed 5 checkrides. Some people should just not be pilots....

Last year, our airline was so famished for pilots that we were taking 250 hour wonders that went from Zero-to-Hero in 120 days. 250 hour pilots flying 76 seat metal tubes at Mach .78 at FL390. I'm not saying that a 250 hour pilot can't be good (for example...guys that go through military training.) But the average 250 hour pilot is nowhere ready to fly pax. I busted guys left and right during their initial training, not because I wanted to be a jerk, but just because I wanted to prevent a smoking hole.
I was about to type basically the same thing, but you described my observations and opinions perfectly. I am a check airman at my airline and I was appalled and dismayed at the total lack of experience and resulting basic incompetence of our new hires up until we stopped hiring (thank God for that, in terms of stopping the flow of inexperienced new hires). Luckily for my airline, we are huge and have about 3,000 pilots. Upgrades to Captain happen at a snail's pace (9 years right now), so the captains these young men and women are paired up with are very, very experienced. Not only that, chronically poor pilots are weeded out quickly at our airline. Three strikes and you are out is our policy. Good thing, too.
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