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kaisen kaisen is offline
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I'll chime in, and try not to kill the thread

My wife has the Lincoln version of the Expedition, a 2005 Navigator, and it will turn 85K miles soon. Zero problems so far.

In 2003 the Exped and Nav went to the 'new' platform that got independent rear suspension.
In 2005 the Exped and Nav got the 3 valve-per-cyl SOHC w/ Variable Valve Timing (~300hp / 365 lb-ft)
In 2005 the Nav got the ZF 6 speed, the same exact unit as a BMW 7-series (Exped stayed 4 spd)
In 2007 the Exped and Nav got Ford's 6 speed

I have no idea why Matt calls them slow, or underpowered. It is way faster than the old-body Sequoia and the 6 speed versions are dead-on with a Nissan Armada. A Nav or Exped tows 8600 pounds.

If you can find a 2007-2008 used Exped that you like, that would be my vote

Listening to people with experience with pre-2005 Expeditions (and certainly the old-body pre-2003) would be apples and oranges as nothing in the drivetrain is the same.

Of course, my personal bias would be to find a 2005-2006 Navigator as they are just plain great buys given their level of equipment, nicer interior, nicer ride, and better bumper-to-bumper warranty. The same advice would apply to the 2007-up, I guess, but I personally think the grille and dash are hideous and (slightly) prefer the ZF trans to Ford's unit.

If you're thinking Sequoia, just buy a new one and enjoy it. I don't think the reliability will be any better than a new Expedition. I don't see the fit and finish being better either. But then, the new Sequoia/Tundra is much more Americanized than previous generations.
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