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Originally Posted by MMARSH
Brock can go back to the WWE, Dana White jumped straight into his ass after what he did after the fight and he apologized at the post fight conference.
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I don't care for Lesnar, and the cynic in me say that whole thing was planned by White for publicity. Lesnar is already disliked by most UFC fans and he knows it, so he really doesn't have a down side. Dana knows that Lesnar winning is one news article, if that.
But what we got was several. We got:
Lesnar Wins
Lesnar acts like a WWE Douchebag in the post fight interview.
White slaps Lesnar down, and talks about how the UFC isn't like that.
Hell, it is still in the news, here is a Boston Globe piece from today:
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/other_sports/ultimate_fighting/view.bg?articleid=1187104&srvc=sports&position=4
I can't remember any other UFC event that was still in the news 2 weeks later, unless someone failed a drug test. Normally you have to pay for that kind of publicity. If I was a betting man, I would wager Lesnar's next fight sets a Pay per view record for a MMA event.
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GSP, Well GSP is the man. But I agree with cantdrv55, I think Silva is in a differant league. I think if GSP goes up a class to fight Silva, GSP would lose.
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I think so too. GSP walks around at 185, Silva probably over 200. I think on their feet it could be close, but if they went to the ground, Silva would dominate George the same way George dominated BJ Penn, for the same reason.
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WHats your take on UFC 101?
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Penn over Florian. Now that Penn has some training discipline, he is going to be hard to beat at 155. Looking at his recent fights with Stevenson and Sherk and comparing to some of his past fights, with Matt Hughs, and his first with GSP, he looks like a completely different fighter. His stand up is as good as Florian, and he is better on the ground.
Silva over Griffin, but I don't think it will be easy. Forrest is tough, much larger, and hits hard. There is always a punchers chance (remember Matt Serra over GSP?).
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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM
I can't decide between Anderson Silva, and Lyoto Machida for the best MMA fighter in the world.
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Machida has such a strange style, so far everyone he has fought has been lost to defend against him. His next fight is supposed to be against Shogun Rua, I think if he defeats Rua (which he probably will), he will be on top of 205 for a while. Then again, has his chin ever been tested?
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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM
Until they put some matches under their belts, they'll both be second fiddle to Royce Gracie. That guy was the real deal when the sport was just a banned street fight.
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Gracie's MMA record is 14-3-3, and most of his early victories (with the exception of Ken Shamrock) he was using his father's revolutionary style of Jiu Jitsu, to submit guys who had either no ground game at all, or at best some Greco Roman Wrestling. Later in his career, once other fighters started training in BJJ, he didn't do nearly as well as his early fights.
Granted, his first 12 fights were in 4 events, which is pretty impressive.
The landscape of MMA has changed considerably since Gracie was dominant, brought about because of his dominance. Simply put, most of Gracie's early opponents brought a knife to a gun fight.
Anderson Silva already has more fights than Gracie, with a record of 24-4, and Machida is 15-0. I believe it is fair to say that Both Machida and Silva have faced a higher caliber of opponents than Grace did for the majority of his fights. Modern MMA fighters all have some ground skills (or takedown defense), hell, even that street fighting meathead Kimbo Slice won a fight by submission.
It really isn't an apples to apples comparison.