Hello
Yeah Iīm the bad evil german
Roland's remark is typical of Euro-weenie sentiment, sorry canīt find weenie in my dictionary but if weenie is peaceloving then i thank you. Normaly we huns are wardrivers and our neighbours have to fear us
which holds that the source of Israel's problems with terrorism is...Israel and the Jews, whatever they do
OH did I say that ?. First there is a difference between jews and israel. One of my friends is a jew and he is very ashamed about what is going on in Israel. Yet Israel isnīt a pure jewisch nation, a large minority are cristians or muslems.
Funny thing is they belive in the same god just read different books. So a Translationerror drives the world most wars.
I donīt like if religion and politcs get mixed together. This is mostly done by people who are very fundamental. Mostly they claim to be on god`s side or that god is with them ( or bless them ). They use god as a shield to justify cruels and to avoid answering earthy questions.
Sometimes I think the always claim the cashgod ( may be the money with me and the profits return the investment )
)Ah yes, Roland, you must have it--it's the Israeli politicians who are responsible for nail bombs that tear children apart in restaurants! great analysis!
Sure Iīm responsible for that, forgive me that I forget that.
( it is hard to be a god see also the book from the Strugatzkys)
Fact is physical laws apply also to politics. Actio is followed by reactio. The more force you use the more feedback can be thrown back. However this is relatet to the thing you use as punching ball.
And sure Arafat was also responsible for the Shabra and Shatila Massacre in 1982. He moved out but Sharon just wantet to go sure. Now that generation is grown up and returns the friendly attention Sharon was giving them.
Roland, what do you think about the incitement and anti-semitism in the Arab press, and the anti-semitic speeches given by Arafat, and the calls for the complete murder of all Jews that are so common and forcefully delivered in the Arab world?
Oh well those things are known in germany and we are aware off it. But also Sharon and Likud doesnīt seem to have friendly words to palestineans or arabs. Right now I remeber that Sharon regrets that he didnīt killed Arafat, but I never heard that Arafat regeretet not to have killed Sharon. Sure both have tried hard, risking ( or shreeding ) many lives to aproach there goals.
But to make it clear the Israel nation is closer to me as the arabic nations. Most Israelis sharing the same idears and way to live. they act more human then the arabic nations. Israel is a true democratie and women have the same rights. Also the Israel nation is spliting religon from staate buisness ( official ) and keeps attention to the human rights. This all canīt be said to arabic organized nations yet as long they sit on the oil the US and the UK will whipe the ass from there "god given" leaders who use the oil money to keep the war aginst Israel going.
Do you think that those facts have anything to do with arab terrorism?
Fact is that Sharon and Arafat are big double tounged guys and use every oportunity to gain power.
Now terroismen is a fashionable word especially used from people who are not willing to show or even see the backgrounds.
[/b]Or is it, like the Nazis said in the 1930s, all just the Jews' fault? [/b]
The nazis didnīt claimed the jews alone make the problems.
The main fault was the socialismen and the degeneration from the societiy. Now socialismen was a "jewisch" idear ( You know: Marx, Engels, Trotzki all born jews ). Hitler just needed a enemy to focus the attention . Enemys where: jews, socilists, gays, lesbians, roma/sinti, disabled persons and worthless slavic/arabic or black people.
Arafat and his style of leadership is the problem, because he is a terrorist.
Well from my view i see no difference in the leaderships from Sahron and Araft so Sharon must be a terrorist too.
But apparently people like Ralph and Roland think that all of that is OK, because he has the support of the Palestinian people.
I donīt think that all palestinean people are terrorists, they are just on the wall facing a enemy and try to defend themself. If you give them no reason to fight for there lives and support them to a normal live things will stop over the next years. If you ainīt see a future in living but a future in killing then your perspective is very narrow.
Hey, like I said above (are you paying attention Roland?), Hitler was elected democratically and had the support of his people. So Roland, judging by your logic about Arafat, I assume you would have supported the legitimacy of the Hitler presidency?
UH strange:
Sharon was elected democratically and had the support of his people. So Noah, judging by your logic I assume you would have supported the legitimacy of the Hitler presidency.
When Hitler was electet he didnīt make a secret about who he is going to fight and what he will do. he didnīt saied I will sent all jews into a concentrationcamp and use them like animals.
He said: I will fight our enemys and try to get the lost countrys back to reunite the nation and I will be a strong hand not giving up those goals becourse we then have a better live and not to fear the enemys inside germany nor on the border. if you vote for me you vote for a strong powerfull germany who will stop the socialistic underminimg and the jweisch bankrobbery to our healthy volksbody.
Yeah Hitler was the first propagandic Politician using Radio, Movies and TV to impress people.
Even more strange like Hitler, Sharon was supportet by the industrie amd his goal is to recoup lost land ( or anex fresh land ) and he will not stop untill he has all ( or nothing ).
Oh btw on the secound election Hitler lost and then he burnt the Reichstag and pushed the Notstandsgesetze to become a dictator.
So Roland, judging by your logic about Arafat, I assume you would have supported the legitimacy of the Hitler presidency
I would have supportet Hitler the same way I support Sharon or Bush. I just donīt like there way of politics and what is behind them. In fact my Grandfathers had been socialists and my grandoncel had the opportunity to work 3 years in a concentration camp to pay back his duty to the third reich even before "just" jews arrived into them. In fact he had been released as they needed the place for new "hosts" and he was to weak to do any usefull work. He didnīt survived very long.
Killed by exhaustive working.
My father was sent to the Hitlerjugend to save the ass from my grandfahter and he was sent into war without any choice.
There was no way to leave germany. Every boader was closed and the border countrys sent the refugees back to the Reich. Guess what happend to them. The only way out was to pay the big bill and travel out with a bit more then a suitcase into a unknown country. Now jewisch people had friends who invitet them and payed there passage, but socialists where only welcomed in the CCCP and Stalin was not a friendly guy.
Just imagen how the palestineans feel right now, and where should they go ?
Now coming to hard facts:
A Petition for International Investigation Committee on Yasser Arafat and his co-conspirators for Crimes of Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity
http://www.petitiononline.com/770MN1/petition.html
A Petition for International Investigation Committee on Ariel Sharons crimes against humanity
http://www.petitiononline.com/warcrime/petition.html
Sharon regrets not killing Arafat during Israeli invasion of Lebanon
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,642881,00.html
Israel's Sharon Accused As War Criminal
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2825_sharon_criminal.html