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zeiss "z" point reflex scopes are about $5-$525. zeiss hensoldt swarovski are in the same bed as HK. the UBER EXPENSIVE BED!
but damn it they make good product that doesnt fail. looked thru one of these at the NRA convention and it is TEETS! perfect for short to mid range light handy rifles. ie lever actions,carbines,socoms. solor powered,auto shut off to save battery blah blah. lightweight is my buzzword and fetish.
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