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Serge, didn't mean anything personal.... I lived and worked in Mainland China for 2 years. I know that they do whatever it takes to make it pass. Quality is what is left after a couple of years of use. The things I saw being made there (airplanes, cars, electronics, buildings) didn't impress at all, and the record of the big stuff there does not bode well for their future.

I am sad to see us selling our infrastructure out for lowest bid to our national largest creditor, another catastrophe in progress.

Will go down in history as the biggest military defeat without a shot ever being fired.