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Originally Posted by vwbobd View Post
I was once a service mgr at a large Honda dealer and I had some incredible techs and none of them could do a valve clearance check/adjustment in 15 mins. It is insane how people downplay any type of technicians work. I guess its a good thing that these guys don't come up with the flat rate guides . Nobody would ever make any money in the service business if they did
As far as the guy who said he wouldn't pay for any kind of "check", exactly how much time do you think is involved in checking over a vehicle? Do you just wait until things break before getting them repaired? How would you like your family to be traveling in a car and have something go wrong in a bad area or at night just because you think you were smarter than the vehicle engineers who don't have enough sense to determine at what point an issue may become ...well, an issue?
Excuse me? Downplay? I'm giving you a data point. A 1993 Honda LX with the 4 cylinder engine. It would take me about 15-30 minutes, total. 4-6 nuts on the valve cover. Pop cover. Rotate engine with ratchet to the correct position. Check with feeler guages. Repeat 7 more times. You are talking to a bunch of car guys that rebuild 911 engines and transmission, not a bunch of wankers on a "tuner" site.

Besides, go back and read what I said. I was justifying the cost and thought it was reasonable for a valve check.

Javadog, how long would it take your technicians to do a timing belt? I know your book says 8 hours, and that is in a shop with all of the right equipment. I had it down to about 10 hours on my driveway without a lift, and that included time for lunch. I discussed this with a Honda Dealer shop manager (They were working on my A/C), and told him about it taking 10 hours. He laughed and said that the book says 8 hours, but his techs could do it in 3.5.
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