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Originally Posted by Rick V View Post
For target or plinking a 9 is fine, I would not trust my life to be defended by one. They just don't have the penetration or knock down I want for my defense. They do have an advantage in lots of rounds in a small space but suppression fire ain't my thing. I have one, just don't remember where it is. A Smith Sigma.
I still have a bruise from 6 months ago where i got hit with a 9mm cor bon ricochet. It left a bruise the size of a silver dollar and knocked the wind right out of me. It felt like i got punched by a boxer. And that was a ricochet.

Trust me, 9mms have power. In fact, they have more energy than many .45 loads do. High pressure 9mm (offered by several manufacturers) can exceed 500ft-lbs and rival some .357 magnum factory loadings for pure power.

The difference in performance between 9mm, .40S&W, .357 sig/magnum is almost meaningless when using modern ammunition.

DoubleTap 9mm+P Penetration / expansion (all loads use Gold Dot bonded JHP)
115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70"

DoubleTap .40 S&W
135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"

DoubleTap .357 Sig
115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 12.25" / .71"

DoubleTap .357 Magnum
125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" / .69"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/523289-double-tap-raw-horsepower-spoons.html

See? No difference.

Top .45ACP rounds leave a significantly larger hole, but it comes at the cost of as much as 50% less magazine capacity, higher recoil, and usually greater weapon size/weight.

9mm is clearly the best self defense round on earth when used with modern ammunition, all things considered.

Every single major military on earth uses 9mm as their standard issue sidearm. If it was an ineffective cartridge that would simply not be the case.

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