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Originally Posted by Rikao4
IMO
some of our guys who did get caught
would have preferred waterboarding..
but hanging by your arms of the ground..
with your arms BEHIND you for hrs...
is much more humane..
Rika
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Let's leave emotion out of it and stick to the topic at hand.
better yet, let's just have it out:
There are many around the world that believe waterboarding is an effective method for extracting information from the best that our Military has to offer. if you agree with that, then you must agree that it is torture, the logic being the best our Military has to offer would not offer any information unless they were tortured. And the Military prepares for this scenario.
Do I personally think it's torture? When used on military and paramilitary (terrorists and the like), no, I do not believe it's torture. Why? Because as part of your training, you can effectively prepare for it. You cannot prepare for the removal of limbs, you cannot prepare for burns by heat or chemicals, you cannot prepare for hanging, etc. Furthermore, when you join the military or similar, part of the job description is death. In this way, waterboarding is not torture.
Is waterboarding torture for non-military personnel? Let's say Rick Lee has his way and he's able to torture innocent family members of terrorists captured as part of any ongoing campaign. If these innocent family members, like the parents of the underwear bomber, were waterboarded, that would be torture.
To recap: for military and paramilitary, waterboarding is not torture as it can be reasonably prepared for as part of your training. For citizens, it is torture.