[berettafan]

Snipe what frenchy is saying, correctly, is that you shouldn't be looking at anything on the gun itself (my contention is that even the very good use peripheral clues and 'cheat') and as such a sighting system that elaborate (does it stick up? would this be in the way?) is just costing you valuable time in getting focused on the target itself.

when you combine a hard focus on the target itself with very good muscle memory (a correctly fit stock being paramount in acheiving this) you become a bird killing machine! or clay killing machine. but birds taste a LOT better. IMO.

shotgunning for birds/clays is SO different from rifle/people shooting. you really don't have time to set up a sight picture that elaborate when a tiny little dove just surprised you by jumping out of the sunflowers 20yds off to your right.

i remember a History Channel show about WWII anti aircraft gunning (can't remember specific series/episode) and the training they went through. the military quickly found that country boys with bird hunting experience were a very natural fit for the job as they already understood the concept of shooting AHEAD of the targe and not AT it. it really is neat stuff. in clays shooting you kinda get to cheat because you can plan your shot watching the guy in front of you. but in bird hunting, particularly dove, you don't get this luxury and the wheat is definitely separated from the chaff. found this myself when i started hunting with a sporting clays buddy. i could reliably score slightly better than him on any course but when we got in the field...well he had a lot more cleaning to do at the end of the day.