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I hate them because they violate due process.

To get around that, they have made whatever the camera monitors (speeding, red light) a civil penalty. So now we have a situation where the same activity could be criminal or civil depending on who catches you. And if it is civil, you generally have zero recourse. Many places that employ cameras to watch traffic have no such standards, and it really is as simple as whatever the camera says is what is believed by the judge (if you even get to see a judge).

Sniper, there was a case in SoCal I believe where it was discovered that a certain red-light camera was timed to snap pictures a second BEFORE the light went red.