[scottmandue]

I would kinda like to buy new... I am just paying off my Hyundai that has been on auto pay for three years so I should have good credit rating with them.

Basic formula is four doors, 30mpg, $15K

I like the Sonata because of the high safety rating and 16 YO step-daughter will be borrowing the car from mom but they seem to be running $20K

Other options are Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Mazda 3... but again most of those run closer to $20K (new) than $15K we are shooting for.

Guess I need to send out some emails and see who is hot to sell.

I drove down to Costa Mesa to buy my Hyundai because they gave me the best deal via email (drove past a half dozen Hyundai dealers on the way) three years ago.

Thanks for the replies,

PS, I do have Costco and will check into that also.