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Originally Posted by Soukus
Saw this on "Inglourious Basterds" earlier today.
As for the AR pistol...it depends on what you want to use it for. The one in your OP has the Gun Smoke buffer tube which makes the pistol completely unreliable. Some guys want a short buffer tube and will keep on trying to make it work well.
There has been a lot of discussions about ballistics with the shorter barrel, The 7" or 7.5" barrels are mostly range toys for the owners who have several other ARs. The flash and percussion from a 7" barrel shooting a 5.56 round is intense. And lets face it, in close quarters, the 7" barrel will be useful...some guys argue it needs to reach out to 100 yards, or it's just useless. The thing about an AR pistol, is you can have a short barrel (say 10.5" to 12.5") without having to get a stamp....or if you can't get a stamp in your state. with a longer "pistol" barrel, there isn't much left on the table compared to a 16" barrel.
So with a long pistol barrel, an AR pistol makes a lot of sense to some folks. Small and concealable (as someone mentioned about VIP protection), and just as lethal as a 16" barrel). Muscle memory. Ammo selection (or similarity with the rifle one may have). There are some advantages.
Snipe - I'm not sure how expensive 5.7 ammo is or how easy it is to get, but for less than an FN 5.7 pistol one can have an AR pistol (custom built if you'd like) and ammo is common enough.  |
5.56mm ammo would not fragment out of a 7" barrel, pretty much regardless of type, the velocity would simply be too low. Energy would also be greatly reduced as well. 2050fps at the muzzle from the 7" bbl is below the threshold for Mk262 ammo to fragment (2100fps is the floor). M855 and M193 have even higher velocity requirements to obtain fragmentation.
In a 7" barrel the only things you could trust to expand at all would be the lightweight 40gr varmint bullets, so at that point, you're just as well off using 40gr 5.7 V-max rounds IMO.
It is, IMO, a range curiosity with no practical value whatsoever.
A FN 5.7 pistol has 100 meter range right out of the box, is far more concealable, much lighter, and holds just as many bullets.
No one in the personal protection field is going to chose a gimmicky AR pistol over a 5.7 due to cost IMO.
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Originally Posted by jyl
Seems like a good SHTF gun. Presumably you're going to try to escape the S, most likely in a car, and a full AR would be kind of hard to use whilst seated in your average subcompact . . .
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It's not a good anything gun. If you fired that in a car your eardrums would explode. This silly little AR is trying desperately to be a PDW, and failing miserably. An FN 5.7 is IMO in every way superior to any AR "pistol."
5.7 PDW's:
See now if they just put a little vertical flat plate on the end of the buffer tube that AR-57 would actually be a very useful weapon. But as it is now, with no stock, IMO it's just stupid, lol...
Even still, you can see in the pic how the AR "pistol" totally dwarfs the size of the 5.7 pistol.