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1 & 2. borrowing is down for all types - savings rates are UP

- so are saying they have not changed enuff, or what??
Wrong, savings rates for May were down to 2.7% from 3.0%

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3. examples?
Gee, the endless Wall Street bailouts? The lack of any meaningful reforms to Fannie/Freddie? The recent failure of Congress to implement a minimum 5% down payment requirement on federally-backed loans? The stalling of financial reform? How many examples do you want?

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4. "social engineering" has always been engaged in -- e.g. the US Govt. gave enormous grants to RR's -- to get the transcontinental RR built - it worked. was it worth it??

another e.g - the entire robber baron era was built on a govt'l substructure

then there's the space program...

so, you need to be more specific about your objections
Gee, Obamacare? But what's another couple of trillion dollars between friends, especially when the deficit is now well over 12 trillion, right?

The transcontinental railroad employed people - Obamacare will not (in fact it seems likely to destroy jobs by forcing the closure of a number of hospitals and other healthcare facilities, several projects have already been canceled). The transcontinental railroad gave this country infrastructure on which it could built itself - Obamacare does not. The transcontinental railroad provided a return on investment. While it is speculation, I think it's fair to say Obamacare will not.

What about "immigration reform"? Cap-n-Tax? CRA (which I notice you avoided answering above)? There are a few "noble" social engineering efforts which either have or are bankrupting this country and tearing asunder its fabric of strength and resourcefulness.
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