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i have nothing negative about the mfg's you mention but if ya want to see a spoon APPRECIATE unlike boats most cars most planes most motorcycles......................
buy a winchester or a marlin whatevar floats yer boat.
back in 1994 winchesters were going for around $325 bucks for a base model. look at them now and marlins will be the same very soon. on the stainless models they are getting top dollar cuz THEY WERE A VERY LIMITED RUN!
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