I stand corrected. When you mentioned Panamera and BMW I immediately thought of the X6 and not the 650 since they are somewhat similar. The 650 is only a two seater so there is a big difference between the two, but I think it is a nice car. The resale values on that car are really, really bad though and I don't think it is selling too well. I have always been a BMW guy and currently on my 4th driving a 550i. I just happened to own an old 911 and that is where my connection to Porsche begins and ends. I do think the current 5 and 7 series are kind of plain and don't do too much for me either. I think Audi is making some of the nicest looking car lately. Again, I said "nicest looking", not to be confused with reliable.