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Originally Posted by nostatic
I don't think there is a double standard when it comes to team orders - there is no standard. Ferrari clearly used them in Germany and that is part of why Alonso has his current lead. RBR may have used them earlier in the season, but certainly didn't use them yesterday.
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If anything, ferrari should have been punished for being stooopid when massa let alonzo by back then.
Their competion had it worked out so that they didn't need to come over the radio and say something so thinly veiled, they understood where they stood before the race began.
The impression I got (gutt feel) was that the ferrari team did not want to call massa on the radio and in
alleged code tell him to let alonzo by, they did it reluctantly after a phone call from Marinello ordering them to do it. Whoever made that call figured they could get away with it because red bull had done the same thing earlier in the season and gotten away with it.
If we look back at the radio conversation with webber prior to the crash, they were telling him that vettel's tires were better (he was faster) and that if he didn't get by he was gonig to be passed by hambone.
It was pretty obvious what they were implying.
Webber slowed for a second for no obvious reason and vettel went by, only to give webber a hip check when he did it as if to say nya nya like a spoiled little kid.
Unfortunately for them that hip check caught them both and damaged the cars. I don't believe vettel intended for contact to happen, he was just trying to scold webber for taking so long to let him by.
Not for a second do I believe that collision was due to the team's "letting them race". I think webber wanted to keep racing but they told him not to, just like with massa.
Same same.
Red bull didn't get punished because they punished themselves.
Then a few races later ferrari pulled the same stunt but it was more obvious because they were stoopid about it.
There's a reason ferrari didn't get slapped very hard. It was because red bull had done the same thing prior and didn't even get a slap.
What they should have done was force the ferrari pit team to take acting lessons.
I'd bet your next paycheck that after all that crap went down, FIA sat them all down and said no more. Abnyone else wanna play that game they get punted from the field.
Yes webber and vettel raced for it yesterday, but part of that might have been because webber's car was overheating and slow. Vettel backed off the pace to stay even after webber had to de-tune to keep from overheating more.
I don't think vettel could have slowed down enough to let webber pass with out it being really obvious. I don't think they could have pulled it off without getting in big trouble.
The same exact thing could be said about massa.
Hambone was chansing alonzo and had to lap massa to stay close. Massa could have diced it out and fought with him and slowed him down by several seconds easy. Bu he didn't. He pulled over and let hambone by immediately and without delay.
He never would have done that in the past.
No, both teams were playing it squeaky clean yesterday and I don't think it was because they all found religion.
They were both under a microscope and they knew it.