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Off the head.........
I did see a demo once where a martial artist kicked an apple off of a head with a jump spin heel kick. He hit the apple hard enough to splatter it into a thousand pieces! If he had missed the apple and hit the head there is no doubt that the owner of the head would have been toast!
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god of thunder and lightning
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