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Originally Posted by speeder
Randy,
Agree on all of your points. I'm simply addressing all of the extremely weak, typical pro-gun arguments that one hears after a slaughter like this one. It's like these guys checked their brains at the door and swallowed a tape-recorder or something...
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You haven't addressed them at all. I've never said I carried so I could be the hero and stop some mass murderer. That's the last thing I'd do. Unarmed people are responsible for themselves. I carry to protect myself and my loved ones, no one else. And you're right. An armed citizen on the scene might not have been able to figure out what was going on in time to stop the mayhem. But as far as we know, the only armed citizen on the scene arrived too late. Pima County is not exactly a hotbed of pro-gun sentiment. I'd not risk certain financial ruin and a likely jail sentence (you should read up on Pima's DA) to defend a bunch of strangers. Their DA has put people in jail for justifiably shooting bad guys in defense of their own lives. All I know is that I would not have been standing around, hoping the guy ran out of ammo before he walked up to me and fired. I'd have gotten the hell out of there as soon as I heard the first shot. Now, if I were totally alone, unable to get out of the area, knew what was going on AND had a clean shot, I might have taken action. Parking lots are not good places for gunplay. But again, there have been plenty of police shootouts with hundreds of rounds fired where no one was hit and everyone was aiming.
If you have any suggestions on how to stop a madman other than waiting for him to run out of ammo or for the cops to arrive, I'm all ears.